EP43: Being Well is Not the Same as Being Cured with John El-Mokadam

What is health? What is wellbeing? How do you know if you’re healthy and well?

Turns out, the way we answer those questions has huge implications for how well we feel.

I talk with John El-Mokadem in this episode about massively expanding our concept of what health and wellness really are.

We talk about how we can be well…we are well…despite what we’re feeling.

How health and wellness do not necessarily equal the absence of pain or anxiety. They do not necessarily equal a “cure”, or an external change at all.

Wellness is the space beyond experience.

John speaks about these big issues so clearly, with so much compassion and understanding. I know you’ll hear something helpful in this episode.

If you want to learn more about John, you can do that here. And if you are interested in the health course that John teaches with Karen DiMarco, I highly recommend checking that out. Their newest course begins in late May.



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